Massa ready to give up home win for Alonso

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Felipe Massa, Ferrari, Interlagos, 2010

Felipe Massa indicated he is prepared to sacrifice a win at his home circuit to help Fernando Alonso win the championship.

Speaking in the FIA press conference today he alluded to the 2007 race where he allowed Kimi Raikkonen to win and become world champion.

Asked whether he would let Alonso win this year if he was in a position to he told reporters:

I already did that, you know? 2007, you don’t remember? So it depends on me. I’m a professional driver.
Felipe Massa

He added he did not expect a hostile reaction from Brazilian fans if he had to give up another win for his team mate:

I expect me to win the race as well and I will do the best I can to win the race for them, for the people. It’s also true that even after the race in Germany, when I arrived in Brazil, the people were very nice with me, very fantastic, pushing me forward. The real people are great. Journalists are much more difficult.
Felipe Massa

Speaking elsewhere Alonso pointed out that Massa winning the race would be a good outcome for him in the championship:

Felipe is very strong here and the best thing for us, even for me, would be if he won this race as he would take 25 points away from all my rivals.

The difference between first on 25 points and second on 18, is the biggest under the new system, with the other gaps being much smaller. Therefore the worry for me is the 25 points, in terms of one of the other title contenders taking them.

Hopefully Felipe can win the last two races, because that would be the best thing for me. Together, we will try and do the best thing for the team, but we need to see how things develop. Historically, Felipe has always been very strong here and so a win for Felipe would be very welcome.
Fernando Alonso

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    114 comments on “Massa ready to give up home win for Alonso”

    1. These drivers saying they will do everything to help another one win, rarely are able to help at all….

      Alonso was supposedly doing everything he could to help Massa win in 2008, it didn’t work. Since Massa publicly announcing his will to help Alonso… He has done nothing. The slowing up the Mercs was just cynicism.

      Oh, and are Daily Roundups scrapped now Keith?

      1. Oh, and are Daily Roundups scrapped now Keith?

        No, here’s today’s: https://www.racefans.net/2010/11/04/new-footage-of-f1-in-1955-uncovered/

        1. Personally I like the having “Daily Roundup” in the titles, find them easier to find.

          Apart from that I love the new look :)

          1. Ignore me. I’ve just noticed there are sub headings now.

            Cool idea, now I’ll be fine. Just getting used to the change. I’ve been here for 3 years remember ;)

            1. just wish it showed on the RSS feed :(

            2. In the mobile version of this web there is no sub headings, so I don’t ignore what you said, Tommy.

            3. Ahhh. Perhaps it would be better if the sub-headings were above the title. The sub-heading is the category, so it’s easier to figure out the article type if it’s above rather than below.

    2. Thia is tantamount to a pre arranged race outcome.F1 has never sank this low.am very disappointed that they ferrari are allowing their drivers to talk openly about what amounts to race fixing or rigging..

      1. Hardly. It’s called strategy and it makes sense.

        Think of the team!

      2. Welcome to the wonderful world of Formula 1.

      3. it is a team sport afterall. it would be a bit different if lotus came out and said “when we get lapped, we’ll hold up the red bulls and mclarens to help ferrari win”.

      4. … Massa can’t win the championship, Alonso can. It is a team sport, and the situation is very different from earlier in the year.

        1. before german gp alonso had 98 points and massa 67. so massa wasn’t fighting for the title.

      5. suggestion. stop watching f1 so you will avoid the disappointing

      6. I don’t understand why people are getting so hot and bothered about team orders now? What about in Brazil 07 when Massa let Kimi past for the championship? Or China 08 where the reverse happened?

        People seemed okay with it then, why not now?

    3. One would hope Alonso’s view of this will prevale in the team if the situations occurs.

      I would love Alonso talking over the radio, telling the engineers, that he is NOT quicker than Felipe this time, just let him drive it home!
      That might even forgive him for bagging those points in Germany and be proud over it.

      1. BasCB,
        That would be awesome!! I think it would give Massa and Alonso a lot better relationship going into 2011 if this would prevail.

    4. felipe massa fan
      4th November 2010, 17:41

      felipe massa is being a good team player
      and i hope he wins or gets on the podium in brazil

      1. actually, felipe massa is showing that he will probably never move beyond the second rank.

        ‘a good team player’ is an horrific thing for any F1 driver to be labelled. A team player is a doormat, allowing himself to be walked over, broken, he has surrendered the team to his biggest rival, and he will never recover. Like Michael Jordan said, “There’s no I in team, but there is in win”

        Hamilton disobeyed a team order and went for self, put Alonso on tilt, and ultimately bundled him out the door, a very necessary step to securing the WDC the following year;
        Massa bent the knee, got pushed around at pitstops, obeyed a team order and will end his career as regretful and bitter as Barrichello is to Schumi.

        Which is a shame.

        1. I totally agree. The formative future of an F1 driver depends largely on how he drives of course, but also whether he chooses to acquiesce to team orders or to stand up for self and believe in his abilities.
          Massa may never recover im afraid, now its different when one is out of it and obviously has to help his teammate, but not when its in the middle of the season and there’s still a chance.

          1. While I think this to be the likely case, I wonder what would happen if Massa and Alonso are pretty evenly matched next year. Part of me thinks that Ferrari might give them even footing but the cynic in me says no.

            1. I think if anything it would end up remarkably like the situation at Red Bull.

    5. “Hopefully Felipe can win the last two races, because that would be the best thing for me.”

      And I thought the best thing for you, Fernando, would be to win the races yourself. Silly me.

      1. PR stuff I guess. But 2 wins for Felipe baby is really not that bad for Fernando, his direct rivals have it tougher to beat him if they don’t win at least a race.

        1. Absolutely it would be great for Alonso if Massa would win both, but it would be even better for him if he’d win himself. It sounds like he wants to be a team player and be kind to Felipe but it’s quite obvious he doesn’t really mean it.

          1. Guys…I dont think Massa has the confidence to win anything more this year…his focus is squarely on ensuring Alonso wins…the key word here is “BLATANT” disregard of the no team-orders rule…i thinks the old adage that FIA stands for Ferrari International Assistance may be true after all :)

    6. TIFOSI FERRARI
      4th November 2010, 17:45

      This is an honourable side of Felipe,
      Forza Felipe.

      1. I think you meant to say, “Forza Fernando,” as it is his strength on display, not Massa’s. Perhaps you can’t have Forza and honor at the same time.

    7. Good team player… but where’s the passion and pride for himself? Where’s the 2008 Massa?

      1. Oh and if Interlagos is another Hockenheim I’m going to be thoroughly disappointed and angry.

        1. you have a choice don’t watch the race.
          so you can be happy not angry. angry is not good for your health

    8. OK, this is the dream finish to the 2010 Tournament:

      Interlagos: Button 1st, Hamilton 2nd, Webber 7th, Vettel 10th, Alonso DNF

      Abu Dhabi: Vettel 1st, Button 2nd, Webber 7th, Hamilton 8th, Alonso 10th.

      Then all 5 drivers will be tied on 232 points, and Fernando will win because he has 5 wins. What a finish would that be!!!

      1. Younger Hamilton
        4th November 2010, 22:24

        And how do you know that,you dont know nothing and Anything is Possible Webber and Lewis can win the title with 4 wins and Fernando can get two DNFs you never know

        1. now is 5:30 am. wake up you are dreaming

      2. that would indeed be incredibly incredible!

    9. Somebody once said, I forgot who, that Alonso would rather win the title by not racing than he would by racing, while guys like Lewis and Sebastian would rather race and win it than rely on misfortune to befall others.
      I think a bit of that is illustrated here.

      1. Isn’t that something that people said about Prost?

      2. I think that’s a rather bad comparison, given how much racing Alonso put into his two championships and how little actual racing Vettel has shown to be capable of. Alonso is the leader both because he has performed better than anyone in the second half and because of RedBull’s failures – how does that translate into him preferring to win by not racing?

    10. This really is sad. When these guys can sit and openly discussing team orders. This is similar to match fixing in soccer and should not even be an option. At least make an effort to hide it Ferrari. If alonso wins due to Race fixing, is he really fit to be called a champion or a chamion fixer. Fernando, win the race on the track, not over the radio, crying to Stefano that u cant get past Massa. I hope the FIA punishes ferrari by stripping them off the race points if Massa and Alonso get up to their usual tricks.

      Viva LEWIS!!

      1. exactly my feeling…can you imagine players in any sport where millions are watching expecting competition only to be cheated by pre arranged theatrics like what Massa and Alonzo are doing.FIA must act to bring sanity and fair competion bact to this sport.
        i hope both these guys end up with a DNF so that we are speared the spectacle of race fixing.

        1. Bicycling: Tour de France, for example.

          Teams made up of 10 runners working since the beggining during almost one month and thousands km for a number one runner. And nobody says Lance Armstrong or Miguel Indurain were cheating or infamous champions. Team sport – full stop, so difficult to understand?

          1. F1 is about intimidation, skill, feeling the car and always being on the edge.

            Everyone is, from Alonso to Kobayashi, so it’s frustrating to see skilled drivers being pushed over like ragdolls or tools.

            Bicycling is all about endurance.

            Either you misunderstood F1 or you took the wrong example.

            1. I just think teams should not benefit economically from one of their drivers winning the driver’s championship.

              They should score points on relaiability, points to be added to the Constructor’s Championship.

              That would end all team orders. Period.

              Keith? Your call?

            2. Keith? Your call?

              See tomorrow’s article…

            3. F1 has been about team orders since F1 has been around.

            4. They don’t benefit on paper – its the constructors championship that pays out prize money. But the publicity they get from winning the drivers title is waaay more than winning the constructors title.

          2. Teams made up of 10 runners working since the beggining during almost one month and thousands km for a number one runner. And nobody says Lance Armstrong or Miguel Indurain were cheating or infamous champions. Team sport – full stop, so difficult to understand?

            What you’ve described there (in unnecessarily condescending terms) is a complete contradiction. You call it a team sport and yet apparently the prize goes to one person. That doesn’t make sense to me. Probably part of the reason why I’ve never got into it.

            1. Contador and Schleck, eye to eye, punch and counterpunch, man against man, alone, over the Pyrenees in the fog.

              The Yellow jersey is one of the great “individual” sporting contests, there is no hiding place, you can’t shadow behind teammates forever. It is relentless, ruthless and brutal about exposing any individual weakness.

              Anyone that misundertsands or fails to recognise that, has either massively misunderstood the whole point of the Tour, or is deliberatley trying to distract us, spin us a line and throw sand in people’s eyes.

            2. has either massively misunderstood the whole point of the Tour

              You’re telling me it’s a “great individual sporting contest” and Feli is telling me it’s a “team sport” so you can understand my confusion.

              At any rate, I’m not convinced it’s a worthwhile comparison with Formula 1 because they seem to me to be completely different contests.

            3. No need for confusion K, I am right, Feli is clearly wrong.

              It’s ‘King of the Mountains’, not ‘Committee of the Mountains’.

              Domestiques on a cycling team, are like F1 mechanics, you need them during the race, they do the donkey work, and they dress in the same uniform as you, but to suggest Senna’s championships are only due to his mechanics is as ridiculous as suggesting Armstrong only won becuase of his support riders.

              Not sure who started it, but faded photocopies of the Tour comparison has been trotted-out by various apologists since Germany; it’s become something of a standard-line amongst pro-orders commentary and blogging, and it long since needed called-out on and put to its bed.

            4. The win may go to a single person in cycling, but the winner does not pocket the prize money all for himself. It is common knowledge that the team supports a single rider during the Tour. The team effort gives the individual the win, the prize money is handed out to the team for it’s role in helping the individual. Much like Formula 1.
              I think it is a very good comparison Feli.

        2. compare the situation to cricket. say you’ve got an awesome middle order batsman in (say, number 4) but you’re 9 wickets down and he’s batting with the number 11 needing say 20 runs off 3 overs. even if 4 plays a shot that can score a single, they won’t run because 11 will be likely to be dismissed. therefore, 4 will dominate the strike as he is the best chance for scoring and acheiving victory. it’s just team strategy to get to the best outcome. massa’s not in the championship battle so it would be stupid for him to unnecessarily take points away from alonso. that would work against the team’s goal.

          1. That’s completely different because cricket matches are won by teams, not individuals.

            Australia can win the cricket world cup but Ricky Ponting (I had to look that up) can’t.

      2. This is nothing like match fixing in football, the closest you could get with the football analogy would be a striker giving up a shot on an open goal and instead passing to a team mate so that they could score the goal.

        1. The match fixing comparison makes sense to me – Massa was on the way to win at Hockenheim, but he let Alonso win.

          1. I’m in full agreement with you about Hockenheim and I was vocal about my opposition to what happened at that GP, nor am I a fan of team orders but the situation now is very different.
            Massa giving the win to Alonso this weekend would make perfect sense and it’s hardly an unprecedented situation at this stage of the championship.

            Without wishing to go into lots of boring detail I stated back then and still agree now that team orders should not be used while both drivers are competing for the championship but once one of them is out it is only natural that they would support their team mate.

            I read Brian’s comment as referring to this weekends race, not the team orders situation as a whole and that’s why I disputed his analogy, Massa is already out of the championship so him giving position to Alonso is fair game in my book.

      3. So its only wrong to do openly, but behind closed doors its alright? How narrow minded are you?

      4. These guys are forced to sit and openly discuse about team orders. Really sad.

        1. It’s called accountability. Sweeping it under the carpet would not somehow make it acceptable.

      5. I don’t agree, It’s the end of the season and Massa isn’t able to win the championship.

        Unlike in Hockenheim, Massa is out of contention, it’s the second last race, and Alonso is on the cusp of another championship.

        I think people need to remember that Massa letting Alonso past, of his own free will, is in no way team orders, and that is what is suggested by this article. in fact, It goes to show that he is a great team mate, (whether that’s a good thing or not I won’t comment on). In Hockenheim Massa was clearly forced to move over, A driver being forced to move over, is what tends to upset people. If Massa had moved over of his own free will, there wouldn’t be such a hostile reaction.

        The only time in recent history where there was a similar situation like this was in 2002 at the Austrian GP circuit.
        After that race, there was a huge negative reaction from viewers, (Just as it was earlier this year as seen here:

        That negative reaction was the very reason the new team orders rule was brought in.
        So for me, it seems conflicting, that the WMSC didn’t uphold this rule.
        But again, this article is talking about Massa letting Alonso past, not Massa being ordered to let him past.

        I don’t have any objection to a driver choosing himself to let his team mate (or any other driver for that matter) past.

        Oh, and for the love of monkeys, please stop comparing F1 to other sports, next someone will compare it to snooker, speaking of which, enjoy!

        1. Ok, messed up the links, where is says “as seen here” it’s meant to link to https://www.racefans.net/2010/07/25/rate-the-race-germany/

          and “enjoy!” is meant to link to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-oAsDCGNA

          Sorry! … Keith… you can’t edit this for me can you?

          1. A great Senna interview done by Sir Jackie Stewart…Senna sums up racing thus “the great motivation of any racing driver is to WIN not to come 4th, 5th or 6th…that’s why I’m a Hamilton fan…
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA&feature=related

    11. I really liked the banter between all four Brazilians in the press conference. But yeah, all these claims of help don’t seem to materialise to much.

    12. I think people are getting confused about the meaning of team orders, there’s no rule saying one team mate can’t make way for another so long as it’s his own free will.

      I think what they are doing is perfectly reasonable, there was no big fuss about this a couple of years ago and there shouldn’t be now.

      The only thing I do wonder about is whether, if their positions were reversed, Alonso would do the same thing for Massa…

      1. Exactly. It is only a team order if the team makes the order.

        If Felipe decides to let him past, its not the teams order, its his own.

      2. there was no big fuss about this a couple of years ago

        The last time a team did what Ferrari did at Hockenheim was at Austria in 2002 and there was a big fuss. And team orders were legal at the time, so we can forget about the idea that just scrapping the rule will make it all go away.

        1. Keith, I think george wasnt talking about team orders, but when a driver chooses to let his team mate pass him ie, kimmi and massa in 07.
          Thats the impression i got anyways :)

    13. would alonso assist massa if he were out of the hunt? No, i dont think so. I feel if he could get some glory from winning a grand prix, he would take it. Yess, in 2008 he did offer his ‘services’ to Massa but lets not forget, that was against Hamilton. His worst enemy. Against any other driver, Alonso would have remained Neutral.

      Ban Race fixing / team orders, whatever u wanna call it. If u dont have the raw pace or skill to get past, u belong behind!

      Hamilton for Champion. 2010

      1. I duno… Alonso seems like the type of driver who would help where he can as long as he is not in contention.

    14. okay, i stand corrected. The match fixing analogy is a bit flawed. Rather what’s being fixed is the world footballer of the year competition, whereby if anyone in the team gets a chance to score, they wait for the star of the team to run to the ball and finish off the goal. Is that any better or does it further enhance how unfaif Ferrari is being.

      1. no, that would be more like massa holding up the pack so alonso could have a clear track to set the fastest lap

    15. By Sam Sheringham

      McLaren have admitted their decision to treat Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button as equals may be reconsidered over the course of the Brazilian Grand Prix.
      The team had vowed to give Button their “full support” as both drivers chase the title with two races remaining.
      But with Hamilton in the stronger position to challenge leader Fernando Alonso of Ferrari, Button may be needed to help out his team-mate on Sunday.
      “We’ll see what the situation is during the race,” said boss Martin Whitmarsh.

      Any comments on this one?

      1. This news leaves me…your name.

        1. Sorry, it is taken :-) I felt like that before

      2. Don’t hold your breath. Both drivers are out for self and Whitmarsh is going to stay out of the way. This has been understood by both drivers since day one. Besides, if he asked one to give up his position to support the other, he might be told where to go with directions.

        1. Dont fool yourself Tharris19. If you believe that then the McLaren PR has really worked its magic on you. They have done it before and they will do it again.

        1. Yes, I was just stressing a specific part that, ups, is in contradiction with the headline.

          To my it is team orders (radioed or pre-agreed is irrelevant) and, sorry, if you get 7 extra points by changing position with your team mate, in terms of global fairness and rigging the WDC it is irrelevant if this happens in race 1 with everybody in contention or in race 17 when only 5 drivers remain in contention. If you win because of these points is fair or unfair, but same in both cases.

          To make a different analogy, in football you cannot just play soft the last match because you are mid ranking and by that making somebody else win the championship (or avoid going to 2nd league). It is as unfair as in match #1 because all long term championships should be played with the same rules all along without changes at any time.

          If you want to see it different, you might be right but to me it is being an hypocrite… at least a bit.

          1. Sorry I hardly understood a word of that.

            1. Try harder…

              I am F1 driver and I lose the WDC to another because he got 7 extra point from his team mate in round 17 by swapping order. Such team mate was already mathematically out. to you this is fair. (What McL is hinting to do)

              I am the same f1 driver and I lose the WDC to another because he got 7 extra point from his team mate in round 1 by swapping order when everybody was in contention. To you this is unfair (what Ferrari did)

              Well, Keith, to me, F1 driver (let’s say Webber for the shake of making it easier) both things have the same impact… I lose the WDC because of team orders. To me that Button or Massa are or are not in contention is irrelevant.

              I think this whole thing is hypocritical and the way TO issue is managed by F1fanatic is very short of manipulation, but I guess that this is the meaning of fanatic (if I understand a word)

            2. Well Astonished, I think the later case is unfair as it was assumed that such events would not happen.

              The former case is equally crappy (IMO) but has happened in previous years without punishment.

              My opinion is that Hock shouldn’t have been legal but WMSC has said the rule is hard to enforce. With this new understanding, how is it hypocritical to change one’s mind?

    16. Just to spice things up: here in Brazil there’s a law called “Estatuto do torcedor” (maybe “rooter’s statute”) made to regulate the rights of spectators in sports events.
      A notorious public defender that deals with violence between different team supporters and who is involved in the afore mentioned statute said that “in Brazil this is considered a crime (note: team orders). Not only for Felipe Massa but for any driver or team chief. If in the rest of the world this hideous practice frustrates the fans’ expectations, here in Brazil no more. One has to get out of Interlagos under arrest if this happens.”
      The statute forecasts arresting for anyone that frauds or contributes to frauding a sporting event.
      Of course his point of view on the matter is not a unanimity among lawyers.
      http://esportes.r7.com/automobilismo/noticias/promotor-faz-alerta-a-ferrari-e-diz-que-pilotos-e-membros-da-escuderia-podem-ser-presos-por-jogo-de-equipe-no-gp-do-brasil-20101104.html

      1. Amen! The term

        fans expectations

        is spot on about this whole team orders issues. At least in Brazil they take competition serious enough to consider cheating the fans a crime.

        1. I expect Massa to let Alonso through. If he doesn’t, does that mean they will be sent to jail?

          1. Well, that would mean it…
            But in a broader light I guess he just appeared a bit too late (as everything, when it comes to punishement).
            Since Germany this subject has matured enough in the F1 world to be considered a, so to speak, valid part of the game.

          2. Sorry, it would mean he would be arrested if he let FA through, not if he doesn’t.
            But it’s just the man venting his opinions on the matter, it wouldn’t happen.

      2. your estatuto of whatever can do that and then can brasil can kiss f1 goodbye for a long time. bernie already has some issues with brasil gp

    17. See? Now that’s his problem. If Massa was winning the championship, Alonso would’ve never given him the place. Professionalism doesn’t mean u get trampled upon by someone else.

      1. Not true. They have it pretty clear at Ferrari. When the time comes the driver who got behind has to support the driver who goes ahead for the title. It doesn’t matter if it’s ALO, MAS or whoever.

        So next year if Massa happens to get a solid lead, Alonso will have to help him, and will be shown the door if he refuses.

        1. Get the door ready, Alonso is not going to help anyone but himself. Besides, Massa don’t stand a chance in a fight with Alonso at Ferrari. A fair fight somewhere else, maybe, but not at Ferrari.

          1. Yeah, that’s why he said that he didn’t need anybody to help him. And a week later suspiciously rectified !

    18. he has so lots of memories here. I wont be mad if Fernando gets WDC, but I really want Massa to win here. Normaly. Not like it was back in 2008

    19. I hope there’s a typhoon after race started then Bruno will win. Go Bruno!

      1. haha.. He’d have to sail his car to the finish line. That thing is a boat in dry weather. It would be a nightmare in the wet.

    20. I really want to see a situation like this:

      Massa leads, Hamilton is second, Alonso is third ahead of Webber and Vettel. A result like this would give:

      Alonso: Leader
      Webber: + 14
      Hamilton: + 18

      But if Massa lets both Hamilton and Alonso through, it would be:

      Alonso: Leader
      Hamilton: +14
      Webber: +16

      Now, on the face of it it looks worse. But it has the effect of having arguably the bigger threat – Webber – lose more points than otherwise.

      I don’t see it happening but you never know :P

    21. Massa has impressed me how he handled the whole 2nd driver thing. He know that Alonso is in a league of his own and if he doesn’t support him then he’ll get the boot.

      Unless Massa can step up next year and beat his team mate then the same thing will happen again.

      Go Alonzo !!!

    22. Holy cr*p imagine if massa was leading the race for most laps with Alonso close behind!!! that would be an epic race in itself just to see what happens…i wreckon Ferrari will have given massa a brief that if this situation occurs that he should “pretend” to make an error and let alono past ;)…

    23. Tell you what. I’m fairly sure Alonso is responsible for rotating the globe on a daily basis. That guy can spin ANYTHING.

      20 years time, I bet you he’s in politics.

      1. I bet he probably is the Spanish president

    24. Ridiculous news about Massa – the prosecutor of Sao Paolo is threatening him by penal law if he let Alonso pass him.

        1. Ahh, The Telegraph must still think that yesterday was March 31st.

    25. I think Massa is trying to tell us something without saying it to loud. Will be interesting to see if he has any incidence with the red bulls ie baulking or a coming together, it seems he may be pre-warning us that something is going to happen and we should keep a lookout for it. He’s said it to many times for my liking, maybe it’s his payback for demotion to No2 driver. ??!!!

    26. Slowly but surely Massa is turning into Rubens Barrichello. He’ll be losing his hair next!

    27. http://tazio.uol.com.br/f-1/textos/22175/

      A prosecutor in Sao Paulo has promised to arrest Felipe Massa on charges of fraud and/or conspiracy to commit fraud if he helps Fernando Alonso. He could apparently face up to six years in prison.

    28. No worries, even though this is Interlagos, Felipe’s home track and where he performs best, he probably won’t be fast enough to play a role anyways. Just like in Turkey.

    29. If Massa leads the race with Alonso second what will be the Brazilian fans reaction when Ferrari decides to swap their places like the German GP?

    30. Massa wont give up the win. For one simple reason, and it’s not cos it’s his home Grand Prix. It’s because he’s not going to be at the front. I’d like to be wrong of course, but I doubt I am.

    31. @keith No, no…you are completely wrong. There is no hypothetical situation where Aussie with win 2011 cricket world cup. Its India all the way. Be it reality or hypothesis.

      1. tam ordrs must be enforced ..i mean who will come to watch lets say manchester united versus lets say barcelona when the players in both teams discuss openly that they will help only one player to score goals?

        1. i meant team orders must be stopped and any driver doing it deliberately must be burnt from F1..otherwise it becomes a farcical sport whereby we the fans and viewers all over the world are watching live on tv knowing that driver so and so are not racing but there to help each other or the team to appear to win. In sport the uncerternity of the outcome is what makes it fan and exicitng to watch

    32. Keith, I have updated your headline and image to reflect what everyone is really thinking:

      http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii197/themark302/Respect.jpg

    33. Ferrari want a No.1 on their car next year. That’s what people see on TV you know. If Massa were to pull over for Fernando then Ferrari wins, Alonso wins and Massa wins.

      But before any of that can happen, Massa has to out qualify or pass Alonso during the race. Think that’s gonna happen?

      As for the Brazilian prosecutor, elections must be coming up? What an absolutely stupid thing for a prosecutor to say. It really amounts to a threat to Ferrari. Now we are having Government orders? It’s a stupid as the Italian court dealing with Williams over Senna’s death. Just crazy.

    34. Fernando said that the best thing will be that Felipe wins the two remaining races

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