Sergio Perez, Force India, Spa-Francorchamps, 2015

Rate the race: 2015 Belgian Grand Prix

2015 Belgian Grand Prix

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Sergio Perez, Force India, Spa-Francorchamps, 2015

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  • 8 (17%)
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  • 5 (11%)
  • 4 (4%)
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141 comments on “Rate the race: 2015 Belgian Grand Prix”

  1. I know I’m in no position to be judging, but can someone please show Hamilton how to take Eau Rouge on the first lap? That’s three years in a row now he’s been overtaken at the top of the hill.

    P.S. I gave the race a rating of 8/10. Just your average F1 race, but the last two laps at the end added a +1 for ‘spectacular’ unpredictability.

    1. Well, nearly overtaken this year. Tyres may have been cooler due to the extra formation lap. This year.

      1. @scalextric He did get overtaken by Perez, even if momentarily.

        1. I see. I guess interpretations can vary. I was thinking that the pass wasn’t completed so he wasn’t overtaken.

          1. At the end of sector one on the first lap, the computer timing actually had Perez ahead of Hamilton. Surely a second or two of bliss for Checo!

    2. Errrrmm…he wasn’t “overtaken” last year. To claim so is a bit of a stretch.

      1. @kbdavies Like I said, he was overtaken at the end of the straight, even if momentarily.

        1. No. This is what you said –

          “That’s three years in a row now he’s been overtaken at the top of the hill”

          But this did not happen last year; hence your claim is incorrect. This is not difficult to understand this…is it?

          1. @kbdavies Hamilton was passed momentarily by Vettel before Vettel ran wide into the Les Combes, but the whole point of what I was saying in the original comment was that at the end of the straight, he was passed. Sure, Hamilton made it back past into the braking zone, but Vettel did out-drag him.

    3. That’s a very strange comment my friend. Perez did not overtake Hamilton this years, in 2013 he actually had a good get away but Red Bull was just too much for him to hold and last year Lewis actually kept Nico behind.

      Maybe you should try to tell Nico how to get a good start at Spa because it was the second year in a row he was jumped by cars behind.

    4. Lol, yeah Lewis definitely has a blind spot about Eau Rouge for some reason. But I failed to resist a snigger at his comment about who was alongside him at Les Combes, and at how he but not Nico made the adjustment for a hot clutch on the second start.

      Decent race I thought, I gave it 7. Bitty coverage as too often, made it hard to follow, and a shame there were so many car failures. One I’ll watch again tho.

    5. I was really surprised the stewards did nothing about the track limits in this race. About 5 cars went off at the exit of eau rouge (cutting the corner by a foot or so) including Hamilton. Almost all drivers exceeded track limits at some point in the race at various places and not one penalty. I’m much more annoyed at that than DRS. Either redraw the lines or enforce the rules. As for DRS it was definitely excessive here. Gave the race a 6.

      1. As far as I know, they are allowed to exceed track limits in the beginning of the first lap for safety reasons.

  2. So much for the “unpredictable” starts. Seemed pretty normal to me…

    1. Rosberg suffered and Alonso gained although I think the latter was because he got the inside line.
      I agree though it wasn’t the chaos people were suggesting but maybe it will matter more when there’s a longer start straight.

      1. The line didn’t matter. Alonso and Button simply started flawlessly, while Kimi, for instance, was sleeping.

        1. They had very good starts but it looked to me like they gained later – alonso went tight through the hairpin while everyone else bunched up round the outside. That’s only from a brief replay though I could be wrong. @slava

        2. Alonso: “I finished the race 40 seconds ahead of my teammate, almost a second faster per lap with the same equipment, when he won here a few years ago. The car performed well.”

          Hehehe. Can’t help himself.

          1. Guess he didn’t hear that Button didn’t have any ERS. It’s amazing that Button was only so little behind.

          2. Paul, @patrickl: The real worry must be that Alonso’s ERS only gave him one second per lap advantage over Button’s car with highly intermittent ERS. The ERS system should be providing 160bhp (actually 4 megajoules per lap) but it doesn’t sound like it was working well in this case. Maybe both of the McLarens were suffering from some ERS trouble?

          3. Paul, @patrickl: Please disregard my “4 megajoules per lap” statement. In fact the electrical system can provide 4 megajoules of energy but not usually every lap, as only 2MJ can be harvested from the MGU-K per lap. I don’t think anyone has a MGU-H providing anything like 2MJ per lap to make up the difference. It’s why drivers have to do at least one “charge” lap before unleashing 100% of the DRS boost in quali.

          4. Still, they said that ERS could easily give a 1.5s per lap advantage. Button had some still, but none going onto Kemmel. I wouldn;t be surprised if Button was actually faster when corrected for his technical issues.

      2. @glynh I agree, had this exact start happend at Monza Vettel woud have been second and Rosberg 10th.

  3. 8/10, not as great as Hungary or Silverstone but still good.

  4. Another pretty average race IMO, which is way better than what we’ve in the vast majority of races this year.
    It’s a shame that it was just average though.

  5. was a decent race, VSC managed to actually take away from the race than help because it messed up strategies, before that there was some great racing, and in the end there was some great racing just a little dull in the middle

  6. 2/10 utterly boring DRS-fest.

    Was there even a non-DRS proper overtake all race?

    1. Verstappen through Blanchimont seems to be the only one.

    2. Verstappen’s overtakes

      1. @duchess what overtakes were those?

        i saw nothing but boring drs bs.

        1. Verstappen overtaking (Nasr I think it was) around the outside of Blanchimont was one, Rosberg on Bottas at the same spot was another

          1. the verstappen one wasn’t really that great as nasr came into the pits so braked earlier at the bus stop to let verstappen go. he also didn’t even get the pass done at blanchmont, he actually lost ground & was off the track.

            dont remember seeing rosberg pass anyone there.

            still even if those 2 were good it doesn’t redeem all the stupidly boring drs bs!

          2. …and Verstappen overtaking Alonso on the opposite side in Blanchimont.

    3. Yes. Not that low a grade for me, but average race ruined by that gimmick.

    4. DRS-helped easy passes were killing. No need to fight to keep your position, you can do nothing to defend.
      So this is the thing fans wanted when they cried constantly “Races are boring”? I feel that there are boring races with DRS and KERS, too. So what’s the point of this ridiculous thing?

    5. I gave it a 4 was so boring.I’ve watched F1 for 50yrs now and the races are getting worse. Not as glued to the tv as i once was. Don’t even bother watching all the practices like i used to.

    6. I gave it a 4, but I am surprised that people are rating it around 7. Personally I agree, it was quite dull. Little drama apart from a few small moments.

  7. Good race, strategy made it interesting, Spa made it even better, DRS made it worthless.

    1. +1. I can’t get excited about DRS passes and in fact I find that they take away from my enjoyment of the race.

      1. how many passes did you see before the DRS was allowed? diddly squat…
        at least the race came alive once DRS was allowed,
        ive watch F1 for 50 odd years and DRS adds action, people obviously dont remember the how boring it was,

        1. Exactly.

          The DRS overtakes weren’t that easy either. Even with fresher faster tyres and uncanny car control, Verstappen still had to fight the car a lot getting it to slow down enough after the passes.

          The fans actually asked for DRS to help overtaking in the 2010 questionnaire. But then they also asked for more technological innovations and when they get it they want to go back to WWII engine technology.

  8. 8. Alot of good overtakes. A new driver, this year, on the podium and a close finish. It was a shame for vettel but you can’t blame Pirelli when someone goes over their advice.

    1. where were these good overtakes?

      i saw nothing but utterly boring drs highway passes!

      1. Plenty of outbraking and going side by side after Drs helping them get close
        Verstappen at blanchimant was amazing.

        1. Joao Pitol (@)
          23rd August 2015, 17:40

          +1

        2. @glynh

          Problem is, while it looked impressive and VES certainly is a no fear kind of driver, the pass itself wasn’t really a pass, he had to leave the track completely and then use that position to pass on the inside into the bus stop. Kind of like Grosjean in Budapest ’13 at turn 4, amazing to watch, the only difference is, Grosjean got a penalty for leaving track and gaining an advantage. Hamilton did the same move last year but managed to keep all 4 on the track.

          I think that had this been another driver and not VES then people would be calling fool alot more than they are.

          VES is exciting to watch though.

          1. @woodyd91 fair point and his attempts have gone wrong in the past.

            I should have said brave attempt since although it lined him up for the actual overtake it probably didn’t help much

  9. 6/10 for me, slightly above average thanks to Grojean but some great overtakes balanced out by overly advantageous DRM enabled ones

  10. 5/10: a very average and typically dull race. The grid was nicely mixed after qualifying and start, but after ten or so laps and all those DRS “overtakes” (seriously… why can’t they ever try a race without it?), the race got very stale. The last few laps were exciting, but not enough to save this race.

    Oh, and I rather watched men’s 100m final midrace than follow cars going round. That’s telling something.

  11. Mercedes dominance, DRS show and on top of that, completely unacceptable tyre failure on Vettel’s car. I don’t know how you can give it an 8. Even 2.

    1. 0/10 for CATASTROPHIC tyre failure!!!! Totally UNACCEPTABLE!!!!

      1. I don’t wanna see exploding tyres. BIG FAT ZERO!!!

  12. 4/10 from me.

    DRS was far too powerful & I just get zero enjoyment or excitement from watching the sort of push of a button pass which we saw constantly through today’s race.

    1. @stefmeister Yup, same feelings for me. I can’t understand for the life of me why FIA/FOM have their heads stuck in the sand with regards to DRS. It has been overpowered in Spa since it was introduced in 2011. It’s disheartening to think that the rule makers think that such a long DRS zone in a natural overtaking spot is just about right…

      1. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again – DRS is killing our sport.

  13. Entertaining race throughout, but DRS was madly overpowered and frankly they could replace a great corner like Les Combes with a kink now, because it has no use with DRS. Only drivers that had to extend their DRS overtakes into Les Combes were Max Verstappen on Raikkonene and Kvyat on Massa, which is sad for a corner that has given us many interesting overtakes through the years.

    Rated it a 7/10 as I enjoyed watching, but after Silverstone, Hungary and the media hyping the new starts, I can understand if people vote lower.

  14. Only came for midfield

  15. 4-10 fro me, How long must we be stuck with this hideous gimmick called drs?

    I just don’t see how anyone can seriously say DRS add’s anything to the racing especially when the passing it generates is so ridiculously boring to watch & so stupidly easy.

    1. @gt-racer, I agree (although I gave it 6, average +) about the DRS, it even cancelled out the Renault power deficit, but if we get rid of DRS and keep these fragile tyres there will be no passing on track, we need tyres that can endure a lot of side-slip to allow attacking drivers to tailgate the car ahead and pounce on any errors. Get rid of DRS and Pirelli.

  16. I feel the FOM’s TV coverage took away from how good the race really was imo, there was many battles where we didnt get to really engage with. I feel they tried to cram in too much that was not really necessary, slightly dissapointed in that sense.

    1. We didn’t get to engage because DRS killed them straightaway not FOM.

  17. Adam (@rocketpanda)
    23rd August 2015, 14:50

    Honestly, pretty boring – especially for Spa. Clearly Hungary was a bit of a blip.

    No fight for the lead at all. What is going on with Rosberg? It’s like he’s perfectly fine to play number two. As a demonstration of technical dominance and excellence it’s astounding to see both Mercs go round 1-2 all the time but as a viewer it’s pretty dull. Even a sluggish start from Rosberg didn’t change much.

    Most, if not all of the overtakes seemed to come from a stunningly powerful DRS which is disappointing to see. Apart from that it was a bit processional, really.

    The most excitement seemed to come from Vettel’s exploding tyre and Bottas deciding to pick and mix. Bordering between average-boring to be honest. Not excited for Monza.

  18. 7. It was good, but I do agree that DRS was too strong this race.

  19. The comments so far again indicate that most F1 fans ARE the death of F1, and living in some alternate reality. Comments like “dull”, “very average”, etc indicate this. You have a race where drivers are dicing with each other throughout, performing amazing overtakes, ala Grojsean, Kyvyat, and Verstappen, errors abounding, ala Williams, and tyres exploding ala Ferrari – yet still it is considered NOT good enough??? Wow!!! What exactly are the looking for?? Engineered position changes every single lap?
    #GobSmacked.

    1. It’s the engineered position changes that are rather the problem, no?

    2. Yes, A right-rear tyre blow-out at 200mph is definitely a very good thing for a driver whose car is suffering it. You would certainly enjoy it even at fives times less speed.

    3. @kbdavies Maybe its because most fans don’t find DRS highway passes that exciting?

      Certainly for me the bits of good dicing & the 2-3 good overtakes were completely overshadowed by the vast majority of the other passes which were far too easy thanks to DRS & they were just not fun to watch.

      All of the recent poll’s on this website & the recent GPDA fan survey showed that the majority of fans simply do not like DRS, So when we have a race where 90-95% of the passes were done via an overpowered DRS it seems clear that most would vote it down as a result.

    4. What’s wrong with describing a race as average – over the course of a season, most races will be, by definition, of average or close to average quality for the fans. That’s precisely what makes that particular branch of mathmatics so useful and what makes the “rate the race” useful. If we all gave every race 10/10 because they are all “good enough” then this article becomes irrelevant and uninteresting.

    5. What exactly are the looking for?? Engineered position changes every single lap?

      That’s basically what DRS is though.

    6. People are allowed opinions of their own, you know. Hence the use of “discussion”, not “echo chamber”. If everyone thought the same as you, this would be a mighty dull place.

      I’m not sure who appointed you as the arbiter of what is right and what is wrong, but I would suggest they reconsider their choice.

    7. Thank you @kbdavies

      Was about to give it a 8 but chose to vote 9 instead. Really tired of this constant negativism.

      1. @kbdavies, @paeschli: +1
        And for those of us (including myself) who dislike DRS, it’s here and isn’t going away any time soon. So look for the upside – all the shifts in strategy and road craft to break/make 1 second gaps at specific points on the track.
        Although I enjoyed the race a lot, I would have been happier with just one DRS zone. But I don’t get to choose that. I can choose whether to watch or not.

    8. @kbdavies God forbid anyone have an opinion. I think people who found the race to be dull (myself included) simply don’t enjoy this atrocity that is DRS, especially when it defiles such a great track as Spa.

  20. Ferrari just blew vettel’s chance of podium, contrary to that red bull’s decision to pit Kvyat paid of nicely. Grosjean was terrific today, good race overall.

    1. It’s now 3 races Ferrari reliability-pit guys-strategy cost Vettel 3rd. LOL That’s unbelievable.

      1. Well pal, take reliability out of the equation and I reckon 3rd. was Ricciardo’s for the taking.

  21. @kbdavies
    DRS. We not likey.

    1. I wonder how much of DRS is down to poor defending? The DRS looked a bit easy, especially into the strong headwind, and Sky pointed this out quite a bit.

      Yet, Vettel was able to hold off Grojean lap after lap, even though Grojean had DRS. Vettel was certainly using his KERS wisely and seriously defending his position. But Grojean was in the faster car with much newer tires.

      Which gives rise to the original question. Are the drivers defending as well as they could?

      DRS also didn’t help the Perez/Massa/RAI battle with the 3 on similar tires.

      1. You are right imo. Sometimes drivers think ahead (or think about the guys further behind) and give up defending. But for the last 2 races we’ve seen brilliant defense from Vettel and he’s been always brilliant at that. But we don’t see that sort of driving very often. Actually, thinking back I can only remember that sort of driving from drivers like Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso for some time now.

  22. Would have been an amazing race without the 2 silver cars at the front. But as it was – 5/10. Mildly entertaining with a couple of great drives, but forgettable. And pretty much all of the overtakes happened in one place.

  23. 7/10. Not nad.

  24. 7, very interesting race. Good battles, differente strategies. Great job from Lewis, Grosjean and Vettel. Rosberg did well too and Kvyat very good again.
    Spa had seen a LOT of worst race than this one, but again, people have the urge to complaint every single time.

  25. 7/10 for me. One of the better races at Spa in the past 6 years.

  26. Anti climatic again. This year the races are often short of delivering something epic, this is another example, after the almost of Hungary to a definitive stale race. SPA is beautiful and for that reason 6. Awful DRS as usual, the loss of Hulk, Bottas, Maldonado and Ricciardo made the track empty.

  27. Mercedes 1-2 was boring but behind them it went Lotus, Red Bull, Force India, Williams, Ferrari then Toro Rosso.
    That’s about as far from a procession as you can get. 8/10
    (Extra points for Grosjeans podium, Verstappens overtake, Vettels tyre blowout and Kyvat’s charge. All very memorable)

  28. I gave it a 7. There was some good strategy and a few good overtakes, and a bit of a mixed field, but DRS was way too strong.

  29. Yihaaaa Grojean. Well deserved, even though I doubt he would have made the pass on Vettel. Would be fun to know how close he actually got on that last lap!
    So good to see him up there, and I enjoyed the interview by Coulthard. Hopefully Enstone will get an economic boost from this, and a bit more peace and quiet to work. Incredible, that they almost only updated the front wing al year, and then get this result. Hip hip hurray

  30. Not much I’ll remember in a few years, not a boring race. Better than the average one, a mild 7.

  31. 5/10 is definitely enough for this race. No real fighting for podiums, no great overtaking maneuvres, no drama like Magnussen vs. Alonso battle last season.

    I wish it would’ve rained.

  32. Only gave this a 6 today and that was due to the over effectiveness of the DRS. The only thing that kept it interesting was due to Perez and Grosjean

  33. gave it a 6 unfortunately. Passable race but if there’s one place I really hate DRS at it’s here. Such a great track yet most of the battles are dull to watch because of the gimmick. Really what’s wrong with the FIA? are they too dumb to understand that it’s way too powerful here. If they can’t remove it completely they should at least shorten the zone by half

  34. 4/10. Dull, dull, dull. Hamilton and Grosjean were superb, but it was a fairly forgettable race.

    Glad to see that Vettel managed to get out in one piece. That could have been a nasty incident.

    1. Mr win or lose
      23rd August 2015, 21:10

      Dull? This was one of the best races of the season! Nice track, nice battles, interesting strategies and different car set-ups. It’s not going to get much better than this I’m afraid.

  35. 6/10 Above Average for me.

    Nice to see some unusual faces running at the front and there were one or two decent battles but ultimately no real excitement due to DRS ensuring every overtake was a slam-dunk.

  36. 3. Best track on the planet and F1 calls this is entertainment ? !
    It’s getting like NBA games, watch the first and last two minutes.
    @Any race where there aren’t different teams fighting for the lead is average.

  37. 8/10 not bad.
    Rosberg having to fight his way back to P2 wasn’t bad, but on the other hand, it could’ve been more exciting had he not had a botched start and been able to challenge Lewis some more. He had the pace to do that, but it wasn’t meant to be.
    Vettel’s penultimate lap puncture wasn’t too bad, either, from an entertainment point of view. He and Ferrari took a gamble, and it was about to pay off when the tyre decided it couldn’t take any more punishment with the finish line almost in sight.
    Glad to see Romain Grosjean back on the podium, great job by him and a very deserved result.
    What I didn’t understand was why Race Control tolerated Botas’s stint on a mix of compounds. I think they should’ve waved the black and orange flag, ordering the team to correct their mistake a.s.a.p., then adding a penalty (in that case, 5 seconds would’ve done the job). Allowing the car to stay on the track although it clearly had an illegal configuration felt wrong to me, even taking into account that there was no advantage to be gained from it. It was a bit farcical, but I don’t know if that bothered anyone else, or if I’m just splitting hairs.

    1. For me @nase I don’t even know why they have that rule about not mixing tyres. Both versions are rated for the track so it’s not about safety is it – what’s it for? It looks like one of those that rule-makers put in for the pleasure of enforcing it.

      I thought it was a bad sign for Williams though.

    2. Mr win or lose
      23rd August 2015, 21:15

      I agree that forcing Williams to change the wrong tyre as soon as possible would have made more sense than issuing Bottas a drive-through penalty.

  38. Poor race..
    2/10

  39. ColdFly F1 (@)
    23rd August 2015, 15:39

    8/10 from me.
    I dislike DRS overtakes as much as the next person. But I saw great racing on a beautiful circuit as well. Also good to see the different tyre strategies (incl. failures) spicing up the overall event.

  40. Simon (@weeniebeenie)
    23rd August 2015, 15:40

    5/10. The only moment of true excitement was Verstappen’s pass around the outside, literally every other pass was a mirror image, car behind with DRS, ‘defending’ cars goes to the inside, DRS car breezes past before the corner. Boring.

  41. No need to overtake anywhere else on the track becuase you just wait until the DRS zone.

    It’s been this way for the last 5 years at Spa or whenever it was DRS was introduced. I truly despair at the stupidity of this gimmick and those behind its introduction and continued use.

    These are meant to be the most intelligent engineers in the world and yet they are completely devoid of common sense.

    1. @john-h It’s incredible how they never considered using DRS only on straights that are not usually overtaking spots, but long enough where it would have made a difference. But no, it would make too much sense for F1.

      With regards to “the most intelligent engineers in the world”… I think it was in 2012 when I completely lost respect for Paddy Lowe when he pushed for double DRS zones in every track and hailed the cursed thing as the holy grail of F1.

      1. @guilherme yes, I remember reading the Paddy Lowe comments with head in hands too.

  42. 3/10. I’d have rated it higher had it been at a rubbish Tilkedrome, but in the context of Spa that was utterly dire. If that is the best that F1 can do at classic circuit that almost always produces great racing in every category then F1 is in real trouble.

    Epic, last of the late brakers, overtakes into Les Combes are a thing of the past, DRS has completely destroyed that. And may as well remove Radillon and make it straight as barely saw a driver do anything but straight line it all race. What a joke.

  43. 7/10

    It was a good race, not as good as Hungary or Silverstone, but still good. Though Lewis’s lead was never in any danger, there were battle for rest of the position throughout the field.

    Great drive by Grosjean, Hamilton, Verstappen, Perez and Kvyat. Shame for Vettel though, what could have been a very well fought 3rd position.

  44. 7/10. Drs zone too long. Still OK race.

  45. Massa was the only one incapable of overtaking with DRS in what was otherwise a DRS-fest. A little action here and there, namely Verstappen and Kvyat, but somehow insufficient despite a Lotus on the podium. 5.

  46. 8. It was a very good race with action everywhere, except for 1st place of course. Drama until the end. Surprise performances by drivers like Grosjean and Perez was nice to see.

  47. Entertaining enough race, but the DRS was far too powerful. Hell, Spa’s the perfect example of a track where DRS isn’t needed as, with momentum, you’re almost guaranteed to overtake someone down the long straight, not to mention the Bus Stop.

    1. This would be the easiest change to implement. DRS should on