In the round-up: F1 is set to be supplied with new high-speed onboard cameras in 2016 to help the FIA investigate accidents during race weekends.
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Magneti Marelli to provide FIA new safety camera for cars in 2016 (FormulaSpy)
"Magneti Marelli have developed a high speed 400 frames per second camera, for the purpose of safety and is set to be introduced in Formula One in 2016. The small almost USB stick sized camera has taken the Italian firm a year to develop. "
McLaren and Honda at war over under-performing engines (Times)
"Sources have told The Times that McLaren executives have appealed to Takahiro Hachigo, the Honda president, to sack Yasuhisa Arai, the man in charge of the complex hybrid engines that have destroyed the season for Fernando Alonso and Jenson Button."
Honda's Yasuhisa Arai suffers 'brutal' media grilling at Monza (Sky)
"Yasuhisa Arai was forced to bat away questions about whether he should resign in what was described as a 'brutal' interrogation of the Honda boss on Saturday night."
Fernando Alonso reveals Honda weaknesses (BBC)
"Alonso: On a circuit that has six corners, on the GPS, we lose two or three tenths in those corners. The rest of the three seconds, we need to find on the straights.'"
Lotus F1 team forced to borrow tyre blankets (Autosport)
"Lotus's tyre blankets were soaked through when Lotus arrived at Monza on Saturday morning. Lotus trackside operations director Alan Permane said the team would have been unable to run had Ferrari, Toro Rosso and Sauber not offered help."
Monza future in the balance as Bernie Ecclestone refuses to back down (Independent)
"The two parties are thought to be €10 million adrift of one another, Ecclestone seeking €25m, the officials offering €15m. Small change, perhaps, compared to what far-flung places on the calendar are paying, but big money when your national government isn’t helping to fund the bill."
Pirelli warns teams not to flout tyre pressure rules (Motorsport.com)
"In the letter, seen by Motorsport.com, Pirelli's Mario Isola told the teams: 'Our prescriptions about minimum starting pressures are based on the assumption that running pressures are higher than starting ones.' These are the historical values we've seen, and we therefore need you to respect this in order to operate the tyres safely."
F1 tyres: Round, black and slow (ESPN)
"Pirelli would appear to be on a hiding to nothing. As sole supplier, they earn no compliments at the end of each grand prix and receive comments that are negative in the event of a failure."
Pat Symonds Q&A: Challenging Ferrari difficult - not impossible! (F1.com)
"We are in a position where we pretty much expected to be. I had hoped that we would be a little closer to Ferrari, but I know that they’ve had quite a good engine upgrade – and more power helped them quite significantly on this circuit"
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1/2 Lots going on today, more hurdles but the team absolutely nailed the engine change and managed to get me out there for one lap in qualy.
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2/2 such a solid effort from them. The lap itself was decent also so from a potential disaster we ended qualifying with a smile on our face!
— Daniel Ricciardo (@danielricciardo) September 5, 2015
#F1 Just spoken to Toto Wolff: They took a risk putting in the new engines. They are worried same could happen to Lewis but had no time to..
— Jennie Gow (@JennieGow) September 5, 2015
..change his & Nico’s. So Nico’s engine is 6 races old and has to use old fuel. Lewis’ is new and on new fuel but with ?? on reliability #F1
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Comment of the day
With an absurd number of power unit-related grid penalties given out this weekend, @fer-no65 has found an ingenious way for Honda to make some much needed progress up the grid…
Honda better start announcing their engine changes and component replacements one week before each grand prix, because that’s probably a better way to qualify further up the road than actually building a good engine.
With all the others taking more and more penalties every weekend, they’ll be the first guys to take them and they just move ahead after everyone else is penalized.
@fer-no65
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43 comments on “F1 set for new high-speed safety cameras in 2016”
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Apex Assassin
6th September 2015, 0:17
Pirelli is awful. F1 with out the tyre war is awful.
What’s worse than that? Supression of freedom.
Anything worse than that? McLoser McHonda McFail.
bull mello (@bullmello)
6th September 2015, 0:58
At least your mood seems cheery. :-)
Actually, a tire war could be even worse than what we have now. Imagine Mercedes on what turns out to be the better of the two tire offerings and their closest competitors locked into a whole season with what turns out to be the inferior tires.
David-A (@david-a)
6th September 2015, 2:01
2000, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012?
paul
6th September 2015, 5:30
2011 wasn’t awful. Neither the whole first half of 2013. For some reason people act like those years were truly awful. Either you lot didn’t watch, or you forgot the whole thing.
There are other years between 2000-2007 that wasn’t awful too.
David-A (@david-a)
6th September 2015, 9:11
Agreed, the first half of 2013 had 4 teams fighting it out, 2011 still saw Mclaren win more races than 2010.
2001-2006 are irrelevant to the point however, as we’re talking about years with no tyre war.
Becken Lima
6th September 2015, 5:16
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Not bad idea if we consider that some so called F1 fans has a disgusting compulsion to criticize every aspect of this sport without a good reflexion on how complex it is.
Jules Winfield (@jules-winfield)
6th September 2015, 11:55
“Disgusting”? I think you overreact slightly, and the complexity (or otherwise) of the sport is largely immaterial.
Why shouldn’t fans of the sport complain about things they don’t like? Or are you going to pretend that everything is hunky-dory and nothing needs changing?
SoLiDG (@solidg)
6th September 2015, 6:59
People seem to forget easily. Or don’t think it’s a good season because their driver or team isn’t winning.
I remember with a tyre war that one team (especially Ferrari) has a tyre perfect for their car. And they dominate because of that (as the tyre is probably the most important component on a car for performance).
I really don’t want to see a tyre war ever again. Sure it’s a great topic for us to discuss, but it has the potential to be very very boring (remember the Ferrari-schumi dominance)
Palle (@palle)
6th September 2015, 10:00
+10. A tyre war will bring us back to an era where the preferential team of the lead tyre supplier will always win, and the only other team, who might get a chance could be the preferential team of the tyre competitor. A bit like the present Engine war, except that only 2 suppliers will be fighting. That would surely be a negative step for F1. The opposite end of the spectrum would be to rule that every team should bring their own Tyre and Engine/Powertrain – expensive.
Jules Winfield (@jules-winfield)
6th September 2015, 11:57
Not necessarily. The tyre supplier could easily be forced not to favour teams by splitting testing of their product equally between all their teams and requiring them to supply all their teams with the same construction and so on.
Jules Winfield (@jules-winfield)
6th September 2015, 11:58
I remember 2005 when there was a tyre war and Bridgestone-Ferrari-Michael were hopeless.
kanan
6th September 2015, 12:11
Yeah we pretend it never happened :D
zekeri
6th September 2015, 0:23
Better cameras make the cars look slower by the way :P
George (@george)
6th September 2015, 0:57
I don’t think they’re meant for public broadcast
Carlitox (@carlitox)
6th September 2015, 1:11
I don’t think it’s a bad idea to show slow-mo onboard replays, for instance when there is a close call or something like that. I’d very much like it, it’s something that’s not seen often.
David Not Coulthard (@davidnotcoulthard)
6th September 2015, 1:34
I think it doesn’t. Bad camera angles do, and F1 uses a lot of them :(
zekeri
6th September 2015, 5:31
Bad angles is another one.
mantresx (@mantresx)
6th September 2015, 0:59
Those cameras seem like a good idea but it makes me wonder why it took them until 2016 to roll them out when small high speed cameras have existed for many many years even in the consumer market, look at the gopros for instance.
Alec Glen (@alec-glen)
6th September 2015, 1:19
I think they’re a bit smaller than gopros but F1 was only 7 years behind Nascar in broadcasting in HD so they probably think this is cutting edge…
Palle (@palle)
6th September 2015, 10:04
And for Ballistic and Missile tests +1000 frames a second has been used for years and very necessary to be able to discriminate events as they unfold.
Bio
6th September 2015, 10:25
Gopros can’t stand 6 G’s accelerations…
Bio
6th September 2015, 10:28
Gopros can’t stand 6 G’s accelerations, neither does a stock car…
BasCB (@bascb)
6th September 2015, 15:26
Isn’t this a) a LOT smaller (compare USB stick to what your “average” go-pro looks like) an b) high speed – 400 fps is quite a lot and about double what the best of those gopros can do and c) its tested to be reliable in for a race, with all the temperature and vibrations that brings with it.
All in all, i think its a nice new bit of equipment to monitor the car etc @mantresx
Luis Rodrigues
7th September 2015, 9:46
They develop a usb stick size camera that does 400fps and your question is:
” Why didn’t they bought a Go Pro ? ”
” Hey Maurizio, why you blow that much $$ in building 2 Ferraris ?? Why don’t you buy them from the dealership ? I herd them La Ferraris are pretty quick, Im sure they will catch the Merc’s…. ”
OOliver
6th September 2015, 1:25
I am getting fed up with everybody asking for Michelin to come back. Michelin chose to leave the sport when the organisers were looking for a single supplier. Pirelli came in after Bridgestone also left and they met virtually no testing.
Certainly there are commercial reasons for their participation, they still risk being ridiculed for their made to specification tyre.
Patrick (@paeschli)
6th September 2015, 8:28
Don’t worry, there’s absolutely no chance Michelin will get the next contract…
Philip (@philipgb)
6th September 2015, 1:53
Rounding up to 3 seconds makes this sound so much worse than it is. Firstly they are 2.6 seconds behind, and from the above account around 1.5 seconds of that is caused by the chassis, so around 1 on the straights.
It sounds like it’s fair to say that as McLaren have produced a chassis that is as inferior to the Mercedes chassis as Honda have produced an inferior engine relative to the Mercedes engine. So yes it’s Hondas fault they aren’t fighting with Torro Rosso and Force India, but they are jointly to blame for not fighting at the front.
The real mistake here was signing Alonso. They should have had Magnussen and Vandoorne in the car cutting their teeth while the stakes are so low.
Iestyn Davies (@fastiesty)
6th September 2015, 2:19
I think it’s more like that with a Mercedes engine, they would be where Rosberg is in relation to Hamilton, but from a small chassis deficit instead of engine. This is why they could score points in Monaco and Hungary.
However, I agree, in the current situation, KMag-Vandoorne and more cash for the car makes more sense.
Ideally, it would have been ham-vet-alo-rai-but-ros all close tomorrow!
mark p
6th September 2015, 2:23
+1000000
As a Ferrari fan I was petrified when Alonso left but at this stage for some season I am so so happy he went to McLaren but I do not know why. As an overall package I think Vettel is a net gain for Ferrari. A few years ago there is no way I would of said that.
Mclaren have a world class pr but too much bs mean people suss you out and you become a laughing stock, expected as made in Rons image. Once great now a crusty fat old man who lost his way, wheres the sponsor he had lined up by end of last year? Now Johnnie Walker and Santander leaving. Johnnie Walker pay 15m a year offered 43m in 2013 for title sponsorship but Ron said was too cheap. Suppose he is a multi millionaire so not too hard up but so is Eddie Irvine and he could not be competitive in F1 nowadays. Ron must quit.
zekeri
6th September 2015, 5:33
LOL +1
Fast
6th September 2015, 2:58
I think he said 2 or 3 tenths overall on the corners, the rest on the straights.
Mashiat (@mashiat)
6th September 2015, 3:23
It’s not 2 to 3 tenths per corner, more like 2-3 tenths per lap. So no, the McLaren Honda chassis is not bad at all.
zekeri
6th September 2015, 5:34
Don’t forget Alonso likes to exaggerate. He thinks Ferrari or Vettel is 3rd and 100 points behind the leader too.
anon
6th September 2015, 10:46
It kind of sounds like you’re conflating two different comments by Alonso there – are you sure that the comment on the points wasn’t about Vettel being in 3rd and Ferrari being over 100 points behind in the WCC? If so, both of those comments would be valid (Vettel 3rd in the WDC and Ferrari are currently 184 points behind in the WCC).
As things stand, it would certainly appear that there are issues with the chassis as well as the powertrain – however, out of the two, the general impression is that the powertrain is responsible for more of the deficit (the Motorsport magazine, for example, estimated it to be responsible for around 60-70% of the deficit) and Honda themselves have admitted that their thermal energy recovery systems are not as efficient as their rivals.
zekeri
6th September 2015, 11:06
184 is not equal to 100, it’s twice as much. I’m not confused. Just google it. Sounds like Alonso is the one confused. Or exaggerating things to make his point.
Fast
6th September 2015, 2:58
Alonso and Button are all McLaren has to sell to sponsors
Fast
6th September 2015, 2:59
43M is way too cheap for title sponsorship
Patrick (@paeschli)
6th September 2015, 8:31
I think that’s an awful lot of money for the 2015 Caterham.
Sven (@crammond)
6th September 2015, 12:04
Or generally for a team fighting for P9 in constructors. That said, would Manor be ahead of McLaren if they had those 43M? They probably would have been able to finish their 2015-car (instead of a modified 2014-version), thus use the 2015-engine…
Palle (@palle)
6th September 2015, 10:08
Comment of the day is absolutely brilliant and very true.
GT Racer (@gt-racer)
6th September 2015, 11:53
Not that you will hear anyone complain about it publicly after the meeting on Friday but there’s been a lot of cuts found in tyres again over this weekend.
As to the ‘safety cameras’ They won’t be available to use on a live broadcast as they will be hooked upto the accident data recorder & not the live transmitter. They will also be rear faced looking at the driver so likely wouldn’t show anything worth airing on TV anyway.
kanan
6th September 2015, 12:24
+1
BasCB (@bascb)
6th September 2015, 18:15
hm, certainly looks like these softs are not really up to it, doesn’t it?