Ricciardo: Technical failures are “why I sometimes don’t like this sport”

42 comments on “Ricciardo: Technical failures are “why I sometimes don’t like this sport””

1. 

   Jimmi Cynic (@jimmi-cynic)
   4th November 2018, 0:52

   Ricciardo has long been a part of the Red Bull young drivers program. Now understand why Danny Ric thinks cars are weird. Horner had a remote kill switch installed in 9 year old Daniel’s go cart – to prepare him for the future.

   ;-)
   1. 

      juan fanger (@juan-fanger)
      4th November 2018, 2:30

      And Danny Ric’s cars are bigger on the inside.
      1. 

         Phylyp (@phylyp)
         4th November 2018, 2:52

         @juan-fanger – thumbs up for that reference :-)
   2. 

      JohnH (@johnrkh)
      4th November 2018, 2:35

      Dam that Horner :))
      1. 

         Andy
         4th November 2018, 10:30

         Is he leaking?
   3. 

      ColdFly (@)
      4th November 2018, 7:43

      And 9 year old Danny Ric didn’t understand that girl filled hot tub on the back of dad’s ute either ;)
   4. 

      ColdFly (@)
      4th November 2018, 7:51

      I might have found the cause of the misfiring for young Danny Ric.
      https://images.perthnow.com.au/publication/7C77EA957823F3342A0429171F99EB7D/6c139844b2910d15cb8d16cb61dbd8a5.jpg?imwidth=736&impolicy=pn_v1

      Where’s the Caption Competition when you need it most :P
      1. 

         Jimmi Cynic (@jimmi-cynic)
         4th November 2018, 8:31

         No engine. No engine failures. No engine failures no DNFs.
2. 

   Jere (@jerejj)
   4th November 2018, 7:16

   Yes, motor vehicles and more precisely racing cars can indeed be weird at times. Hopefully, he wouldn’t face anything in the remaining two races, though, although given his recent luck I don’t hold too much hope for that, and the same applies to Alonso as well.
   – I agree with the COTD.
3. 

   Nulla Pax (@nullapax)
   4th November 2018, 8:40

   Cheer up Danny – you’re driving a Renault next year ….. hmmm ;)
   1. 

      anon
      4th November 2018, 11:47

      @nullapax, how many of his retirements have been due to problems with the engine though, and how many due to Red Bull components? After all, his retirements in Monza and Mexico were both clutch failures that were linked to Red Bull manufactured parts.

      Objectively speaking, the Renault factory team have not really had that many issues with reliability – Sainz has only had one retirement this season due to mechanical issues, which was in Mexico, and Hulkenberg two. Equally, over at McLaren, Vandoorne has not had a single retirement due to engine issues (all retirements have been gearbox issues), whilst for Alonso it is debatably two.

      Really, it’s mainly been Red Bull that have tended to have the most issues, and that could be because Red Bull have tended to diverge from the Renault works team – not just in terms of installation and packaging, but potentially for some ancillary components too (in the past, for example, Red Bull designed and built their own alternator system where they were prepared to take greater risks in terms of reliability in order to cut down on cooling requirements).
      1. 

         Nulla Pax (@nullapax)
         4th November 2018, 12:28

         I see what you say and I’m really hoping that Dan is going to surprise – nay, Shock everyone next year and give Mad Max something to sulk about. ;P
      2. 

         ColdFly (@)
         4th November 2018, 14:23

         That might explain the reliability, but not the +1s (or 2 laps in Mexico speak) lap time deficit.

         I’d rather have two F1 wins over an F1.5 championship any day of the week.
         1. 

            Phylyp (@phylyp)
            4th November 2018, 14:44

            I’d rather have two F1 wins over an F1.5 championship any day of the week.

            @coldfly – Heretic! I’d take this from almost anyone… but you? Shame on you.
            1. 

               ColdFly (@)
               4th November 2018, 15:18

               I need that edit button, @phylyp.
               Typing this with my nose as I glued my fingers together to stop me from posting more nonsense.

               F1.5 – please join us on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Formula1Point5/
            2. 

               Phylyp (@phylyp)
               4th November 2018, 17:55

               @coldfly – LOL. BTW, I subbed to that sub-reddit a couple of days ago.
4. 

   DB-C90 (@dbradock)
   4th November 2018, 8:54

   I’m surprised that so many saw his move to Renault as a shock or as Webber put it weird.

   I’m not convinced that RBR will be any more competitive in the next few years, and both Mercedes and Ferrari were never realistic options and won’t be until their current lead drivers retire which wnt be for a while yet.

   After a number of years in the Red Bull family, it’s time for a new challenge, even more so after they signalled last year that they planned to build their team around Max.

   Renault is the only team that is a manufacturer and have got a stated desire to return to the top so why not go there and revitalise himself. I’m sure he’s been made privy to some of their ongoing plans and must have seen something he thinks he can work with an thrive.

   I’m looking forward to seeing the new revitalised Dan next year.
   1. 

      HK (@me4me)
      4th November 2018, 9:21

      @dbradock, To me it seems like Daniel changed teams for the sake of change. There isn’t actually much evidence to suggest that Renault will be any better than Red Bull, short term or long term. Having solid financial resources is no longer (and hasn’t been for a long time) a guarantee for a team to be at the front. Renault’s currect drivers have actually gone on record and said that as a team they’ve been out-developed throughout 2018. Also they are still some way behind with the PU. So, it’s not like Renault is on a steep upward trajectory.

      Daniel might very well be revitilised initially, but how will he feel when the results dont come and progress is slow? He’ll be the next “Alonso at Mclaren”, and I see it ending much the same way; Daniel will be looking outside of F1 to prove what he’s capable of.
      1. 

         DB-C90 (@dbradock)
         4th November 2018, 23:54

         @me4me you’re right. It could be a crash and burn, but there are a few factors.

         Renault actually switched off development pretty early which ch suggests that there already concentrating on 2019. There’s supposed to be a completely new PU design coming too, something I’m expecting now RBR is out of the picture.

         I’m hoping that there is genuine change coming from them. My only concern (and he has been for years) is Cyril.

         On the other side. If Newey decided he’d had enough or got poached from RBR, where would the RBR car actually be. We saw how bad it was in early 2016 when he took a “lesser role” (or was it 2017). We keep assuming that RBR will continue on, but there is a lot to learn from the demise of Mclaren and Williams.

         Being part of a manufacturer outfit is a good thing but you’re correct that the pressure is on them now to deliver or we may see Dan leaving the sport.
   2. 

      Nulla Pax (@nullapax)
      4th November 2018, 10:59

      @dbradock I agree totally.
      The Honda engine is doing better in the Torro Rosso than it did in the McLaren but that doesn’t automatically mean that it will do well in the Red Bull. Plus my often stated belief that Honda may well form (buyout?) a team once their engine is sorted could well leave Red Bull in no better a position than they are in now.

      Danny would always be second driver there so why not move?
      He isn’t getting any younger and the top two teams pretty much have their next few seasons drivers lined up and ready to go.
      Lead driver at a works team that can afford to win sounds like a good choice to me.
      1. 

         Jeroen Bons
         4th November 2018, 13:34

         Why did Honda team up with Red Bull/Toro Rosso? And why did Dietrich Mateschitz (owner of both teams) team up with Honda? Well the answer is predictable. They both want to win… BUT, what if Honda was looking for a team of there own and what if Mr. Mateschitz wants to sell his F1 teams, with a big profit, after all those years? Red Bull could still claim a downsized publicity-spot on the cars for an equal downsized prize and still have full coverage of their Brand. Tempting?
         1. 

            Nulla Pax (@nullapax)
            4th November 2018, 14:04

            Honda buying Red Bull could be awesome and give us three top teams all fighting for the titles.
            I certainly wouldn’t be upset with such an outcome :)
      2. 

         Phil Norman (@phil-f1-21)
         4th November 2018, 14:04

         I think this is a really good point. There seems to be a lot of speculation that the Honda engine is going to slip easily into the new Red Bull chassis and they are going to be pretty much just as competitive as they are now. I doubt it’s going to be that straight forward.

         Renault will probably continue to improve and slowly become more competitive. Who knows, they might even be challenging Red Bull for third spot next year if things don’t go smoothly with Honda.
         1. 

            Robbie (@robbie)
            4th November 2018, 14:40

            @phil-f1-21 I agree that is possible. I am definitely in a see-it-to-believe-it mode with Honda, as I think most should be, for they still have everything to prove. I do think what RBR has going for it is that the Honda Pu simply must be better than when Mac started with them, and should be better by next year than when STR started with them, plus they have the experience and data from STR/Honda, and that helps them at least compared to year one of McHonda. I think it will be a great achievement if next year they just pick up where they left off with Renault and are in a solid third place. I have all kinds of faith in the Newey touch, and I think the RBR/Honda marriage is going to be a good one, but I’m not convinced we’ve seen Honda able to crank it’s unit up to top level and be reliable at the same time. Anyway, nobody knows all this more than RBR and Honda.
   3. 

      Robbie (@robbie)
      4th November 2018, 13:51

      I think the only reason some people were surprised by DR’s move to Renault was because after it evolving that Ferrari and Mercedes were not options, staying at RBR seemed by most people to be the next most likely thing to happen. I seem to recall many people around here at the start of the season were talking like DR would have his pick of a Ferrari ride or a Mercedes one, almost like it was solely his decision to choose. I was one of a handful that suggested early on that perhaps Renault would be an option for him as the only other works team. But then that seemed to get overwhelmed by all the assumptions of a Merc or Ferrari ride. As DR’s announcement neared, the likes of Max and many others were absolutely convinced he was going to stay at RBR and said so publicly, they were that convinced.

      It’s going to be fun to watch what happens at Renault and for DR, as it will be watching Gasly and Leclerc. Can’t wait.

      Wrt the wording regarding Max at RBR and the sentiment ‘they signalled last year that they planned to build their team around Max.’ I think it is inaccurate to say it that way. If they literally said or even signalled that, then DR’s move away from the team would have been a no-brainer and not the hardest decision DR has had to make, as he himself told us.

      When Max went to them himself to re-commit, Horner said Max was in the perfect position, by committing himself to the team, to build ‘a’ team around him. A couple of key differences here to how many like to project it. Max can build his side of the garage around him. Not Max can take over the whole team while they disregard the other driver. ‘Max’ can do that by rallying a team around him as other drivers have done. But that will be in Max’s hands. Example, if he were to continue to make silly errors in judgment like early this season, without any sign of changing that, he would hardly rally a team around himself.

      Nowhere did Horner actually imply the team is now Max’s and they will build it around him. If that was actually the case the silly season and the conversation around here would have been far different, nor would it have taken DR so long to decide with such a struggle to do so. DR has had plenty of success against Max and had it in his hands to rally his side of the garage around himself and take over the theoretical top spot on the team, leaving Max to overdrive the car. Mind you, all this talk of a number one and two on a team that is third in the WCC is moot. RBR is in no position to do anything but help both drivers in every way they can in order to advance the team. If Max heads that with better performance and input, great, and they will take all the help and input they can get from PG as well, as he does what he can do to raise his stock on the team and in F1 as well.
      1. 

         Bart
         4th November 2018, 15:27

         Long story, but I agree 100%
   4. 

      ColdFly (@)
      4th November 2018, 14:26

      their current lead drivers retire which wnt be for a while yet.

      The Ferrari seat could be available sooner rather than later, @dbradock.
      It will be Hamilton (or Verstappen) who is the likely successor though.
      1. 

         Dan
         5th November 2018, 1:53

         Ferrari has never expressed a desire for Hamilton and although he is pleasant enough when winning, he has an abrasive side when under pressure.

         Verstappen has shot himself in the foot with his bickering towards Renault for the world to hear. And threatening to leave RedBull with daddy’s blessing didn’t help. Ferrari won’t put up wth that.

         In comparison to the HAM and VER, Schuey never complained.
         RIC is a good enough driver and has a better temperament than VER and HAM……and he’s Italian.
5. 

   q85
   4th November 2018, 10:39

   My Norton Commando is like that Daniel!!!
   1. 

      Glenn (@glennb)
      4th November 2018, 11:04

      I had a Bultaco like that too…
      1. 

         Nulla Pax (@nullapax)
         4th November 2018, 12:23

         Arg – I had a Bultaco 350 (back in the 70’s this though) that used to blow it’s spark plugs out of it’s head.
         The bottom of the petrol tank was full of dents!

         I swapped it for a 250 Husky that used to just cut out for no reason … it felt safer at least.
         1. 

            bull mello (@bullmello)
            4th November 2018, 17:54

            Had a Rickman 125 back in the 70’s, with the Zundapp engine. It always started, but bottom end torque was MIA…
6. 

   Daves
   4th November 2018, 13:35

   I think it’s a given RBR/Marko have orchestrated most of his cars “issues”. I would put nothing past this group.

   Marko is a head case and has shown nothing but hatred towards Renault for years as if the latter was sub par on purpose. Additionally, RIC made a fool of him by packing up and joining the enemy while Marko was claiming he had “nowhere to go”.

   I can only hope Honda’s so called progress is trumped by Renault next year and RIC’ move proves to be advantageous. RIC doesn’t fit in with RBR – he doesn’t possess the arrogant attitude of Marko and Verstappen – throw Horner in also.
   Newey is the only one with integrity – can’t figure out why he stays.

   In any case, a few weeks ago Marko claimed next year Honda wouldn’t be able to get them a championship but suddenly he has backtracked claiming they will as there has been an increase of 60 hp in Honda’s updated engine. Maybe they think Merc and Red aren’t going to improve also.

   Sounds like the honeymoon with Honda is over – Max needs to win a WDC is 2019. No pressure Honda! It will be interesting indeed to see how these guys (and daddy) react if things go south.

   Marko has threatened to close shop if Honda fails. Good luck Honda.
   1. 

      Robbie (@robbie)
      4th November 2018, 14:30

      What a bunch of bull. You’ve invented a lot of fantasy here. You should write for tabloids.
      1. 

         Daves
         4th November 2018, 17:35

         What did I invent? I’m rereading my original post and granted my theory of RBR sabotaging Dan’s car may be questionable but certainly possible considering Marko’s character.

         Other than that please tell me where the fantasy
         1. Is Marko not arrogant?
         2. Is VER not arrogant?
         3. Have Marko and Horner not unfairly raked Renault over the coals in front of the world for the past several years?
         4. Is Dan not liked by the vast majority because he is of sound character?
         5. Did Marko not say they will compete for the championship next year?
         6. Did Marko not threaten to quit if Honda isn’t successful?
         1. 

            Robert
            4th November 2018, 23:01

            1 and 2 is your opinion. I would rather call it confident. That’s not the same.

            3. “unfairly” again your opinion. RB pay a lot of money for an engine that does not deliver.

            4. I would say the opposite.

            5. and 6. probably true.
   2. 

      bull mello (@bullmello)
      4th November 2018, 18:24

      Daves said; ”
      I think it’s a given RBR/Marko have orchestrated most of his cars “issues”. I would put nothing past this group.”
      – – –

      One thing that has been a constant source of amazement since the advent of F1 forums on the internet is the ability for so many F1 “fans” to create and believe in so many fantasy conspiracy theories. Theories that involve F1 teams spending hundreds of millions to field two cars, hire two drivers, hundreds of staff, maintain large facilities, participate twenty or more times a year in the hyper-expensive movable techno/mechanical spectator feast that is F1 all around the world, only to sabotage their own cars, on purpose.

      This is not to discount the extraordinary idiocy of Crashgate in 2008 or other obviously controversial team orders that do exist. But, if all these fantasy sabotage incidents that seem to spontaneously blow up after nearly every race were true I cannot comprehend why F1 teams would bother to even go through the motions.
   3. 

      Moi
      4th November 2018, 19:02

      Do you work for Fox news?
      1. 

         Robbie (@robbie)
         4th November 2018, 22:05

         Lol that must be it.
7. 

   Niefer (@niefer)
   4th November 2018, 16:12

   I swear, sometimes Ricciardo annoys me with his sissyness.

   This is motorsport. Actually, weird thing is that era of reliability he lives in. What he’s experiencing is nothing worse than what tons of drivers before him experienced. Heck, even Verstappen experienced that last year. Vettel, at 2014. Raikkonen, 2005. And so on backwards.

   Tough times? Keep the head down, live to fight another day. Moaning about things he can’t resolve is not gonna help him at Renault next year. And by the way, a certain Hulkenberg isn’t much of a moaner, whilst being a really solid driver who delivers results. That’s what he should be worried about.

   It’s not like a healthy RB14 would let him fight for the WDC anyway.

   Ahead of him there is a team to elevate. I hope he dwells more at Viry-Châtillon than between the microphones.
8. 

   NS Biker (@rekibsn)
   4th November 2018, 18:45

   To respond to DAVES 6 questions ….
   No. 1 to 4, yes, of course. This is racing at its highest level and while you can win as a “nice guy”, being a s…t and arrogant always helps, especially if you are not a “nice guy”. In most cases it is required and generally always expected.
   For no. 5 and 6, have to answer NO, but that is only because it is a net double negative response. Wouldn’t want to fail to avoid not getting this right.
   1. 

      Robbie (@robbie)
      4th November 2018, 22:07

      Lol, don’t stop trying to confuse us.

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